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Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.23 00:58:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:La Nariz wrote:A lot of these entities that you want to join are more social group than EVE space guild. You might want to try joining a social group that plays EVE instead of an ~elite~ EVE space guild. EVE is good because of the people you surround yourself with and the content they create, not because the game is intrinsically good. If you join a social group you'll have a decent group of people to hang out with, but if you join an ~elite~ EVE pvp space guild you'll have a wonderful all important green killboard to hang out with. This man speaks the truth. I've played some terrible games that I never would've played if it were not for the community.
Exactly. First you get some friends, then you go PvP with your friends. That is the secret to satisfying group PvP. |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.23 01:03:00 -
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Borascus wrote: I've not given these to anyone? I also say: Comms - yes, many unaccountable comms - no. The trust requested is 4 involuntary comms channels on '4 unmonitored programs' under the premise it's cool to be on them, bear in mind that Anti-Virus programs require a list of definitions for those programs to make sure they don't inject code (Allow for safe being pointless and Allow for all being the most commonly clicked button), most are slapped together despite already legitimate programs doing exactly the same thing already being around, like large TS servers, with chat channels and pop-up sounds.
Who the hell uses comms that aren't publicly available and trustworthy programs? I settled on using Pidgin for our alliance comms, and run it on Windows and Linux and never had any sort of issue with either permissions on Linux or the anti-virus on Windows.
Makes me want to ask if you have legitimate anti-virus or a trojan masquerading as an anti-virus. |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.23 01:23:00 -
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Borascus wrote:La Nariz wrote:Borascus wrote: I also say: Comms - yes, many unaccountable comms - no.
That sounds like one big excuse for not using comms probably stemming from "oh god its another program that I don't want to have to run." Any half-decent free antivirus will protect you from those things you list. Comms are essential, its the social group that makes EVE fun and you can't be a part of a social group without communication. Would you tell me which one your members think is the best anti-virus program?
Of all the ones I've used over the years, the one that Microsoft makes (became available with Vista iirc) has been the best. Way way way way way less lag and hard drive grinding then Norton or McAfee, and it ties right into the built in permissions system in Windows. |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
170
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Posted - 2012.11.23 01:42:00 -
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Arsedestroyer wrote:Karn Dulake wrote:
When i give out my full API key why should i also give out all of my financial transactions as well. I am very very rich in this game and roughly 1% worth of all isk trades in Amarr runs through my characters. If i give out this information they could kick me and take these markets for themselves.
Use a clean alt to join alliances maybe?
Alt or account? Smart corps will ask for an account wide API.
If you have some sort of serious business trade or industry characters that you don't want to expose to a nullsec corp, then cough up the Plex to roll a new account with nullsec PvP characters and then give the API for only that account. |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.23 03:04:00 -
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Ptraci wrote: Then don't. If you get challenged, tell them why not. And if they don't like it, screw 'em. However methinks you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. That attitude will not help you get recruited. In nullsec you are just meat for the grinder, boy. No one cares about your little market tricks - in fact your alliance will appreciate you NOT using them on fellow alliance members. The "enemy" is THAT way ---> No, all we care about is if you can bring the right ship and fitting to the fight, with enough skill to fly it well, and if you can do exactly as you are told.
It isn't an entirely unreasonable opinion though. Nullsec alliance leadership has plenty of examples of individuals who turned and used the authorities and access they had to takes as much with them on the way out.
For the most part though, the people that will be reviewing your API are already personally wealthy enough, and have access to alliance wealth, to not really care about you highsec side business. Matter of fact, if your side business is so successful, you might be able to use it to get in even if you are under on other prerequisites. Say you have the ability to produce or source commonly consumed fleet hulls or ammo for cheap. Nullsec corps need to do a lot of mostly highsec industry, trade, and logistics to fund their nullsec operations. |
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